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    • "Laws of the Game are hard; they're harder if you're stupid."

emo Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

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Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

Holy crap! why in the world it took that referee sooooo long to get there and deal with it? I would feel VERY uncomfortable in her shoes! (even being a guy).

All I would advise her is to take a step back, and give the player a moving target.

Girl's got some cojones though! I love it! I'm a fan of female referees, we need more of them
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Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

Agree...she needed to move away from him.

And IMHO his teammate #9 deserves a Caution for Dissent as well.... hand gestures can be seen by ALL, while words are more limited. Clearly disrespectful to that AR.
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She did look firm...
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Proud of her. She stood her ground and was firm. Probably why she isn't part of the 65% of female referees who quit within the first few years.
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@David, oh yeah.

She stood her ground even more than most male ARs/Referees. You should never step back, period.

CR should get there immediately to deal with the player and protect his/her AR. AR is too exposed.

As soon as I see a player taking a step toward my AR, I loudly tell him to stop and walk away from my AR or there will be consequences. It, almost always, works like a charm.

@Michael: absolutely agree with #9 being booked for showing dissent by gestures.

@Steve: 11 seconds for the CR to get there. Boy, talk about slow... :-)
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Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

I agree that she was right to just stand her ground. Big props to her. I L O V E IT!
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Sorry folks, that is Referee Abuse, not Dissent RC Player and at the very least, Caustion #9.
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Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

Where's the abuse? Verbal? Still a caution. Physical? No where to be seen.

He doesn't touch the AR at all and, you as the CR, more likely cannot hear what the player is saying to your AR. Is he close to your AR? Yup so what?

YC for dissent. IF, and that's a major IF, the AR notifies the CR that swearing or threats were present, then straight Red Card.
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Actually that's assault. At least in the US it is.
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Lola Inkprice wrote:
Actually that's assault. At least in the US it is.

Assault? Oh My Lord Almighty... :lol:
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Lola Inkprice wrote:
Actually that's assault. At least in the US it is.

assault requires physical contact.
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Mark Quinton wrote:
Lola Inkprice wrote:
Actually that's assault. At least in the US it is.

assault requires physical contact.

Thank you, Mark.
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From Legal Match:

Many people are familiar with the term “assault and battery”, and battery is often confused with assault. However, assault is a separate charge from battery. It is generally defined as an attempted battery. Alternatively, it can be defined as “the intentional creation of a reasonable apprehension of harm”.

It does not require contact.
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Female Assistant Referee firmly stands her ground against dissenting player.

Since we're entering into the comical endeavor of Laws for something that is not even remotely "Assault", here's the actual legal definition of "Assault":
An assault is any unlawful attempt or offer with force or violence to do bodily harm to another, whether from ill will or extreme carelessness; for example, by striking at or holding up the fist at a person in a threatening or insulting manner, or with other circumstances that evidence an intention, coupled with a present ability, of actual violence against the person, such as by pointing a weapon at him when he is within reach of it. When the injury is actually inflicted, it amounts to a battery.

Getting an inch close to you does NOT constitute "Assault" and that all the player does, along with his verbal dissent.

YC for Dissent.
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